Extropy Institute Closes Friday, May 5 2006
transhumanism 2:30 am
After 17 years of existence, the once-flagship transhumanist non-profit, Extropy Institute, has closed. Unanimous vote by the Board of Directors. This is partially symbolic as the Extropy Institute as a coordinated whole has not engaged in any projects since 2001 except for the online VP Summit, a follow-up, and a site redesign. But a lot of really smart and creative people identify with it, calling themselves “extropians”, a metaphorical title meaning “against entropy”. The general consensus among extropians is that this closure marks the end of an era.
The Extropy Institute seemed to hit its peak of activity and fame in the mid-90s, when it was holding lively gatherings in Silicon Valley, getting profiled in the likes of Wired magazine, and just generally bathing in the optimism and futurism of the dot com boom. They held a conference as recently as 2001, but since then the primary footprint of the Extropy Institute has been its active mailing list, which of course will continue despite the shutdown. It is still the most active transhumanist mailing list around.
Anyone who has been involved with the Extropians will recall the acronym BEST DO IT SO, standing for the extropian principles of Boundless Expansion, Self-Transformation, Dynamic Optimism, Intelligent Technology and Spontaneous Order. Here is a poem. In recent times the principles have been modified to be more politically neutral and so on.
This is something that has kinda plagued the Extropy Institute in the past few years - it started off as a right-leaning, primarily libertarian organization, then attempted to become more politically neutral and all-encompassing in the new century. It never really shook the libertarian connection, though. The World Transhumanist Organization (WTA), now the unchallenged org for general-purpose transhumanism, was created as politically neutral from the get-go, making it more suitable as an umbrella group. Even though the WTA’s executive director Dr. J is a huge advocate of democratic socialism, he does a good job of using his Cyborg Democracy blog/movement as an outlet rather than compromising the political neutrality of the organization he runs. On the WTA mailing lists, socialists and libertarians argue a bit, but the intelligent ones are able to play nice.
Natasha’s announcement on Extropy Institute’s close says that the Board of Directors believe that the Extropy Institute has accomplished its mission. Like the straight-talking Samantha Atkins on the extropy list, I have to disagree. Please - don’t pretend that the Institute is shutting down because the mission is accomplished. We will know when the transhumanist project is achieved, and it could take years, decades, or even centuries. Indicators for a transhumanist “Mission Accomplished” include manifest absence of non-voluntary death, disease, aging, ignorance, hunger, violence, etc. On the list, Natasha responds to Samantha’s sentiment by saying the mission has been “essentially completed” rather than “totally completed”, but again, this just isn’t true… sorry. It undermines the grandiosity of transhumanism to say that transhumanist goals are “essentially completed” as of 2006.
If anything has been accomplished, the Extropy Institute has played a big role in expanding the discussion of transhumanist ideas of radical space travel, life extension, cryonics, molecular manufacturing, artificial intelligence, and so on. These ideas were considered crazy about two decades ago, unpolite in conversation a decade ago, but are becoming almost acceptable nowadays. Hal Finney observes: “…the world has changed enormously since the 1980s when Max and Tom invented the idea of Extropy, and even since the early 1990s when this mailing list was born in its earlier incarnation. Ideas which at that time were considered too outlandish even for science fiction are now debated regularly in the corridors of power and on the front pages of major newspapers and other opinion leaders.” Indeed.
Regarding the ExI shutdown, long-time extropian Spike Jones remarks, “Many of us have one period of formative years in our lives, when we form the memetic framework, the philosophical basis of our entire lives. Usually these are in our youth.” He then goes on to say that he was fortunate to have two formative periods, the latter being his exposure to extropy in middle age.
Myself, I discovered transhumanism online via Extropy.org in 2001. I called myself an extropian then and still do today, just that the more general “transhumanist” is a label that seems to make more sense. Extropians were transhumanists before the word “transhumanist” was really known.
Not entirely ceasing collective activity, the Strategic Plan 2006 and the Proactionary Principle are cited as the foundation of future moves. Extropy Institute founder Max More is coming out with a book of that name (Proactionary Principle), hopefully soon. And of course the mailing list remains a source of some of the most intelligent chatter on myriad topics to be found on the Internet.
Future Imperative suggests that the members decided they had more to gain by pursuing their own projects independently rather than under the aegis of a political lightning rod.
Justin Corwin shares how finding the Extropy Institute was a turning point in his life, and that there are more extropian thinkers today than ever before.
If you run across other eulogies, post them in the ol’ comments section. Of course there will be a lag for comment approval, as each day there are about 10 spam comments. (Will install a filter for this.) Goodbye ExI, and I wish everyone luck on their independent projects. I’m sure that Max and Natasha will continue to be leaders in the transhumanist community.

May 5th, 2006 at 11:08 am
“All Your Comments Are Belong To Us” ;->
Well, I logged off the Extropians’ mailing list right
around this time of the year, back in 2001 –around the time or
shortly before the time you (Mr. Anissimov) discovered it,
I should imagine.
My fondest memory of Max More, who was once described to me as
the “deus absconditus” of the list, is his tolerance
and restraint toward odd-shaped pegs like me. Other
transhumanist watering-holes are less accommodating.
My career as a “transhumanist” (if that’s what I am –
yeah, I guess it still is) followed more-or-less the
trajectory:
old _Outer Limits_ episode “The Sixth Finger”
(which I much later found out was lifted from G. B. Shaw’s
_Back to Methuselah_ [Sept. 1963, shortly before my 11th
birthday] ->
Arthur C. Clarke’s _Profiles of the Future_ ->
Olaf Stapledon’s _Last and First Men_ and _Star Maker_ ->
Hans Moravec’s _Mind Children_ [1988, when I was working
for the NYU Robotics Lab] ->
Yudkowsky’s “Staring into the Singularity”
[1997, shortly after I got WebTV — I had already read
Vinge’s _Across Realtime_ and _A Fire Upon the Deep_,
Paul & Cox’s _Beyond Humanity: Cyber-Evolution and
Future Minds_, and had discovered Greg Egan and
Iain Banks] ->
Kurzweil’s _The Age of Spiritual Machines_ and
Moravec’s _Robot: Mere Machine to Transcendent Mind_.
So yeah, I read the right books and saw the right
movies (_2001_, _Colossus_, _The Matrix_) and TV shows.
None of this stuff was exactly news to me.
But the Extropians’ list gave me a chance to actually, for the
first time in my life, rub shoulders and **talk** to
people who self-identified in the same way.
I was not altogether thrilled with what I discovered.
I did not like the right-wing, libertarian streak I discovered
among these folks. Once upon a time, I actually **considered**
my self a “libertarian” — in the sense of “keep the
bureaucracy under control and let people sleep with whomever
they please and smoke whatever they please, as long as it’s
not bothering anybody else”. But I did **not** like
the “I’ve got mine, go hang” or “I’m free to get rich and
you’re free to starve” aspects of libertarianism, which seemed
to translate into a sort of free-floating contempt for
most of the human race. A kind of concentrated narcissism,
if you will. Even less did I like the lingering fascination
for, and reverence of, Ayn Rand and her cult, which I
consider an out-and-out hate movement.
I was also a bit nonplussed by what seemed like an
Aspergerian tendency toward black-and-white thinking,
and a peculiarly retro attitude toward such possibilies
as artificial intelligence, ideas surrounding which
seemed to me to be unduly influenced by leftover cults
and movements from the 50’s — General Semantics,
Dianetics, and Objectivism.
But, hey — nobody’s perfect, right? ;-> So I still,
definitely older and perhaps wiser, keep an eye on the
transhumanists, and lurk on the lists which are lurkable,
though most of my communication with the folks I still
keep in touch with is strictly “back-channel”.
Cheers.
Jim F.
May 5th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
I think the reality of approaching middle age (and more than middle age for NVM, who will become eligible for Social Security and Medicare in a few years) has contributed to the loss of enthusiasm among a lot of the long-time Extropians, as progress towards the Assembler Breakthrough and AI has bogged down. The libertarian ideas have gone nowhere at all, despite fantasies about libertarian oceanic cities, anarcho-Somalianism and private security forces like the ones raping, robbing and murdering civilians in Iraq.
The cornucopianism underlying Extropian thinking also looks increasingly shaky now; at least the burden of proof has shifted onto the Julian L. Simon enthusiasta who apparently still live in 1990.
May 6th, 2006 at 7:39 am
That was unexpected, though i hadn’t really kept up with current progress of the institute.
Looks like i’ll be rounding up all my old print copies of the Extropy magazine from years past, putting them in a safe place and re-living some fond memes and memories.
I still remember the sense of excitement when I found my first copy of Extropy Magazine!
Without ever having heard the word “extropy”, I knew immediately what it meant. Just seeing such an artifact on the retail-shelf gave me a great feeling of hope …
like “Wow, it’s really happening! The fact this is in Tower Records means these ideas are rapidly expanding into society”
May 6th, 2006 at 1:34 pm
I generally appreciate many of your points, Michael. However I take issue with some things. I need to live up to the “straight-talking” rep after all.
1) Libertarian extropians are not “right leaning” as it is commonly held. “Up-wingers” would be more accurate.
2) WTA is not and never has been politically neutral except in its brochures. It is highly “left-leaning” and its Director, as you mentioned, is an avowed socialist. He and others of like mind pretty well control the range and flavor of WTA activities and positions. For this and other reasons I am not comfortable with the WTA. No neutral organization would have explicitly run off so many basically libertarian transhumanists. Cyborg Democracy is very obviously socialist of course but it is not the one outlet that keeps socialism from coloring the organization that you claim.
Those things out the way, I am very grateful for what ExI has done and accomplished. I have made contacts of a lifetime and been exposed to many wondrous and expansive viewpoints and ideas from being part of the mailing list and meeting virtually and in real time many of the people.
I have been a bit nonplussed that so much time seems to be spend geeking out and imho too little time and energy is spent in designing a viable future or likely paths from here to there. Geeking out is great fun but extropy calls for more.
I am not sure why ExI seemed to bog down. A post-mortem might be useful to future efforts. I believe that it is important that there are future efforts at an organizational level beyond the imho severely tainted WTA.
May 6th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
WTA is democratic. You can join and vote in whoever you want. Even I was on the BoD for a little while.
There are organizational efforts - like singinst, imminst, and MMP.
People that post to the list today aren’t all right-wing, I guess. But remember when Robert Bradbury suggested nuking certain locations?
May 6th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Actually, I just found this on James Hughes…
http://transhumanist.blogspot.com/
James… why are you causing people to be “driven out”? That isn’t very nice… but honestly I really don’t care because transhumanist ideas have a life of their own and the WTA website is doing a fine job of propagating them. And James does all these nice podcasts, wrote a book, and even has an account on SecondLife… so he can’t be all bad, clearly.
I even had a few beers with him one time which was really fun.
The Internet is so fluid and meritocratical, it’s not like any one person can have too much control. People can’t really “listen to Max More” for example because he barely releases any new material or even posts to the list.
May 6th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Both ExI and Hughes’ “Cyborg Democracy” need(ed) to take a serious look at Louis Kelso’s ideas, as well as those of James Albus. Total robotic- and nano-cybernation is FINE, as long as one OWNS a sufficient chunk of the overall capital-structure to derive sufficient income to live. Of course, “capital”, “income”, and even “money” tend to be transformed once one is in (or even well-on-the-way to) such a thoroughly *cybernated* production environment. See Marshall Brain’s discussion(s). See also Jim “Cyber” Lewis’ discussion of thorough-going robotic-cybernation of production at http://www.cyberlewis.com/graphic/posthuman/topia/Robotopia.htm
“Unemployment/retirement” is fine, so long as one can afford it by owning income-producing, cybernated (robotic) capital.
May 8th, 2006 at 11:09 am
Monday, 8 May 2006
I can’t express much surprise at the announcement. ExI seemed “on life support” for a long while. So it goes. ExI helped me think better, and the people I met through its list taught me a great deal.
May 8th, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Extropy Institute RIP. It just emphasizes how “people driven” this sort of organization is. I didn’t appreciate the attempted “purges” at WTA, but nobody’s perfect. At least they weren’t pulling a Pol Pot or Al Qaeda on the “infidels.”
May 9th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
Don’t let the Loony Left destroy Transhumanism
May 11th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
I think the reason Extropy Institute stuck around the past years was to protect transhumanism from Hughes who is a dictator, and not a very nice one at that.
I think ExI and WTA could have been close organizations with David and Nick. Hughes ruined anything positive.
Michelle
May 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Actually, the comments here reveal what happened pretty clearly. The transhumanist movement is poisoned by the humans involved. Politics, backbiting, accusations of pogromery…
Hell, I remember the first time I read anything about Extropians, the first time I saw “Information wants to be free.”
Disappointing it’s come to this, but not surprising. They weren’t trans at all, in the end. They’re only human.