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	<title>Comments on: Bloggingheads.tv Interview &#8212; Horgan and Yudkowsky</title>
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	<description>Transhumanism, AI, nanotechnology, the Singularity, and extinction risk.</description>
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		<title>By: JARIO Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2008/06/bloggingheadstv-interview-horgan-and-yudkowsky/#comment-155026</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Projeção Astral reflexão e origem...&lt;/strong&gt;

A teoria básica do Corpo Astral situa-se na palavra grega aster que significa estrela, então a alma seria envolvida por este invólucro semelhantes ao das estrelas, também foi chamado no passado de Corpo Sideral......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Projeção Astral reflexão e origem&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A teoria básica do Corpo Astral situa-se na palavra grega aster que significa estrela, então a alma seria envolvida por este invólucro semelhantes ao das estrelas, também foi chamado no passado de Corpo Sideral&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caledonian</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2008/06/bloggingheadstv-interview-horgan-and-yudkowsky/#comment-123399</link>
		<dc:creator>Caledonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(1) He gave a name to the subject of self-enhancing AI - “seed AI” - and wrote a paper describing schematically how to accomplish it&quot;

Giving a name to an existing concept is a trivial accomplishment.  The value of the schematic depends on how specific and distant from the trivial it is - does this paper go beyond a representation of recursive improvement that could be easily produced by many people?

&quot;(2) He identified the problem of “Friendly AI” and gave it that name.&quot;

He did not identify the problem; others covered the same ground much earlier, and actually went much farther than Eliezer has done.  Again, giving a name to something is not a particularly impressive accomplishment, especially when you cannot clearly establish what that thing is.

&quot;Whether you agree with his prescriptions or not, we now have a name for the problem and its solution.&quot;

I can make up names for a problem and its solution right now.  Here:  xenthisism and multiblem scorbitol.  But if I can&#039;t tell you clearly what those things are, or even provide suggestions as to how you might find out, all I&#039;ve done is made up two phrases.

&quot;(3) He proposed a solution to the Friendliness problem, namely Coherent Extrapolated Volition&quot;

No, CEV is the hypothesis that a solution can be found by certain undefined methods applied to the population of human moral beliefs.  It is not clear what methods would be used, or whether any methods can produce a solution from human moral beliefs.  It&#039;s not even clear precisely what the problem is - no defined explanation has ever been given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(1) He gave a name to the subject of self-enhancing AI &#8211; “seed AI” &#8211; and wrote a paper describing schematically how to accomplish it&#8221;</p>
<p>Giving a name to an existing concept is a trivial accomplishment.  The value of the schematic depends on how specific and distant from the trivial it is &#8211; does this paper go beyond a representation of recursive improvement that could be easily produced by many people?</p>
<p>&#8220;(2) He identified the problem of “Friendly AI” and gave it that name.&#8221;</p>
<p>He did not identify the problem; others covered the same ground much earlier, and actually went much farther than Eliezer has done.  Again, giving a name to something is not a particularly impressive accomplishment, especially when you cannot clearly establish what that thing is.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whether you agree with his prescriptions or not, we now have a name for the problem and its solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can make up names for a problem and its solution right now.  Here:  xenthisism and multiblem scorbitol.  But if I can&#8217;t tell you clearly what those things are, or even provide suggestions as to how you might find out, all I&#8217;ve done is made up two phrases.</p>
<p>&#8220;(3) He proposed a solution to the Friendliness problem, namely Coherent Extrapolated Volition&#8221;</p>
<p>No, CEV is the hypothesis that a solution can be found by certain undefined methods applied to the population of human moral beliefs.  It is not clear what methods would be used, or whether any methods can produce a solution from human moral beliefs.  It&#8217;s not even clear precisely what the problem is &#8211; no defined explanation has ever been given.</p>
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		<title>By: ievexcnl</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2008/06/bloggingheadstv-interview-horgan-and-yudkowsky/#comment-122476</link>
		<dc:creator>ievexcnl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ievexcnl...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2008/06/bloggingheadstv-interview-horgan-and-yudkowsky/#comment-121546</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MCP2012 Says:
[And, Eliezer, if at all possible, please try to make sure that any future would-be interviewers indeed ARE “up” at least somewhat on “where you’re coming from” in terms of some of the basic (”intro” and “intermediate”) stuff at your SI site.]

Btw..my apology..I forgot to mention that i&#039;ve seen Eliezer within the context of the Singularity summit and find that his performance was very much up to par.  My opinion was based solely on being in the general public eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MCP2012 Says:<br />
[And, Eliezer, if at all possible, please try to make sure that any future would-be interviewers indeed ARE “up” at least somewhat on “where you’re coming from” in terms of some of the basic (”intro” and “intermediate”) stuff at your SI site.]</p>
<p>Btw..my apology..I forgot to mention that i&#8217;ve seen Eliezer within the context of the Singularity summit and find that his performance was very much up to par.  My opinion was based solely on being in the general public eye.</p>
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		<title>By: MCP2012</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2008/06/bloggingheadstv-interview-horgan-and-yudkowsky/#comment-121443</link>
		<dc:creator>MCP2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well-said, Mitchell.  And we can only hope that Ben is still committed to his 10-yr (as of &#039;06) time-frame.  Maybe we&#039;ll have the Singularity just in time for the 2016 election-cycle (yippee kai-yay...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well-said, Mitchell.  And we can only hope that Ben is still committed to his 10-yr (as of &#8217;06) time-frame.  Maybe we&#8217;ll have the Singularity just in time for the 2016 election-cycle (yippee kai-yay&#8230;)</p>
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