Interview with Dr. Steel Wednesday, Aug 13 2008
interviews and transhumanism 12:48 am
Dr. Phineas Waldolf Steel is a mentally twisted but awe-inspiring figure whose interests span the production of propaganda, the construction of chronically malfunctioning robots, puppet shows, and an ongoing attempt to become World Emperor for the purpose of turning this planet into a Utopian Playland. His growing movement aims to move beyond conflict and war to forge a world that makes fun the top priority. His multi-faceted persona is an example of what people can do when they are highly creative in a variety of cultural areas.
Dr. Steel is an entertainer, leader, musician, artist, and thinker. If you’re interested in finding out more about him, check out his website. The laboratory in the toyland section is particularly entertaining. As an independent artist, Dr. Steel hasn’t sold out to any record companies yet, though I’m sure that he would accept a big contract if it were part of his master plan for world domination. His music has been described as “hip-hop industrial opera”, which is correct in the abstract, though I’d also add “experimental”. Imagine nerdcore intermixed with assorted sampling, nutty beatboxing, guitars, reed instruments, choirs, and an accordion.
Dr. Steel is no stranger to transhumanism, as you’ll see in our interview. He has written songs called “Build the Robots” and “The Singularity” that serve as his odes to all things robotic and post-biological. You can get the mp3s from his latest album here, or all three here. Dr. Steel is one among a growing group of transhumanist musicians and artists.
In a world of pre-packaged, corporatized, formula-driven entertainment, I find Dr. Steel to be refreshingly different and rebellious. I was so intrigued by his self-presentation and approach to the world that I had to sit down and ask him a few questions. They begin below the image.

Accelerating Future (AF): Dr. Steel, have you heard of transhumanism? Do you consider yourself a transhumanist?
STEEL: Absolutely, I do consider myself a transhumanist. The desire to transcend biology, as Ray Kurzweil is known for saying, remains at the forefront of my consciousness. I am frequently frustrated with the limitations of my current, physical form and I foresee great possibilities as we evolve into electronic life.
AF: Some of us think that the fastest way to get really useful robots is to build an artificial intelligence that designs these robots for us. Given your checkered past in robot development, have you considered this option?
STEEL: Indeed, there will come a time when artificial super intelligence will be able to out-think and out-perform us. To see “the robots building robots building robots” is one way of refining the evolution and development of technology based life. However, I am most interested in integrating our consciousness into this technology. To be able to back-up one’s brain and utilize this as the basis of such creations will allow us to integrate ourselves into the next step of existence. Our creativity is our greatest power, and in fact this is what I believe the true purpose of the universe is; to create. Humans have been able to harness this ability in unique ways and to build upon that by upgrading ourselves will be the key to moving into a new field of infinite possibilities.
AF: In your video of robotics you mention nanotechnology. If you could use advanced futuristic nanobots for one application, what would it be?
STEEL: Oh goodness, there are so many possibilities. Though, for the fun factor I would have to go with the use of foglets. These clusters of nanobots programmed to manifest in their designated form could prove very useful indeed. Be it the replication of a Tyrannosaurus Rex or a very comfortable arm chair, foglets could provide hours of maniacal entertainment.
AF: One of the biggest challenges of space travel would be isolation from the bulk of society and absence of an Internet connection. What would you do to amuse yourself on a long journey through space?
STEEL: It’s interesting, what you describe as a challenge reads a bit like a vacation in my book. I would, however, require a great deal of reading and writing material. Such a journey would certainly give me the time to complete my illustrated manifesto….oh, and I would need an accordion as well.
AF: Even among those of us that are obsessed with the amazing potential of artificial intelligence and the coming Singularity, we are concerned about mankind being destroyed by AIs gone wrong. Is there anything we can do to avoid this negative outcome?
STEEL: It seems to me that if mankind successfully creates something that ends up wiping out the entire species, then we deserve such a demise. There is always a way to overcome a problem and it is this sort of creative thinking that makes us so very special. If we are not up to the task, then evolution has passed us by and electronic life would then inherit the Earth. It’s also important to remember that when being chased by a robot, it’s best to keep a garden hose and a bucket of magnets handy.
AF: With achievements in art, video, music, philosophy, and complete insanity, you have shattered the traditional boundaries of creativity, expression, and existence in general. Is there any way for us to become as awesome as you, Dr. Steel?
STEEL: Why thank you ever so much for the tremendous compliment. I must assure you, however, that I am but a simple carbon life form. Until I am able to transcend biology, I hold no more potential than any other human on the planet. Let us all reach beyond our grasp to obtain the title of “awesome”.

August 13th, 2008 at 1:15 am
This Dr. Steel Character is interesting. I like him for giving the world something new.
Some of his ideas aside, I like this quote:
Our creativity is our greatest power, and in fact this is what I believe the true purpose of the universe is; to create.
As potential Emperors of Earth go, he’s one of the better ones.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:45 am
..well I for one…
August 13th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Hey music aint half bad either.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Does Dr. Steel have a nemesis?
August 13th, 2008 at 10:36 am
There was a bit of imagined rivalry between Dr. Steel and Dr. Horrible a few weeks back. But from what I’ve heard, Dr. Steel’s army of toy soldiers has decided that the legions of fans of the other doctor is a boon to all mad scientists.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Hurray for Doctor Steel and the Toy Soldiers!
August 13th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Hehe! That guy’s great! Glad you pointed out his website, i loved the little flash cartoons and the interface was pretty neat, too. Found his music on myspace a little while ago, ecletic & slightly odd, but really catchy.
August 13th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Doctor Steel, future world emperor and all around awesome guy. His music is awesome, his followers beautiful, creative, and amazing.
Oh yeah, and concerned about the environment.. Can you ask for more?
August 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Yeah this was quite an interesting interview. And I totally agree with himj, let us all reach for the title of ‘Awesome’ ^_^
August 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Why wouldn’t biology allow us to have more potential? That we humans have more potential than cats and dogs is more due to biology itself rather than our (limited) ability to go beyond it.
August 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
RE: Josh
The point that the Doctor is trying to make, in my opinion at least, is that no matter how good you get, how smart, how fast, ect, you are limited by biology. You cannot go beyond the potential of every one else.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Dr.Steel for World Emperor!
August 13th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
wow. simply amazing.
i like his ideas about merging technology and biology.
his music isn’t so bad either.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Roman, that still doesn’t make sense to me. Yes, the biology of neurons and the like does place limits on biological processing. Just like the speed of light places a limit on how fast you can drive.
But I’m not going to say something like ‘Until we solve faster-than-light travel, my car has no more potential than any other automobile on the planet.’
In my opinion, there is plenty of room to enhance this biological substrate. Sure, it may one day be that we have to switch to a non-biological system as biological ones prove harder to enhance. But we are not at an impasse yet, so I see no reason (yet) to decry the awesome carbon based lifeforms that we are.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Wow, Dr Steel gets my Vote for World Emperor
August 13th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Foglets… add that to the list of new ideas I’ve learned about through Dr. Steel. Brilliant *and* an awesome musician… he gets my vote too!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:45 am
I spent ten minutes laughing over “inspector gadget”.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:23 am
YEAH!!! hail steel! if you want more you can always look him up on YouTube as well folks!! lots of great animation and videos done by some far-out fans!
August 14th, 2008 at 5:32 am
I love Dr. Steel, Kato, Agamemnon, and the rest of the toy soldiers too! Doctor Steel for world emperor! =^__^= Hooray for nanobots!
August 14th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Buckethead called… he wants his ethos back.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Yes! This is win win win!!! Dr. Steel is amazing!!! Go to http://www.toysoldiersunite.com to join the army ^^
August 14th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
This is a very well written article my friend. I loved every word of it. As a Toy Soldier it’s always a wonderful sight to see others taking interest and gives us a feeling of accomplishment that the word is being received.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Thank you for printing this wonderful article on the Good Doctor!
To A Utopian Playland!