Comments on: What are the Benefits of Mind Uploading? http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2009/01/what-are-the-benefits-of-mind-uploading/ Transhumanism, AI, nanotechnology, the Singularity, and extinction risk. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jannie Green http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2009/01/what-are-the-benefits-of-mind-uploading/#comment-164492 Jannie Green Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:30:03 +0000 http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=903#comment-164492 The secret of success is learning how to use pain and pleasure instead of having pain and pleasure use you. If you do that, you're in control of your life. If you don't, life controls you. - Tony Robbins The secret of success is learning how to use pain and pleasure instead of having pain and pleasure use you. If you do that, you’re in control of your life. If you don’t, life controls you. – Tony Robbins

]]> By: Vatin Petaneelanon http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2009/01/what-are-the-benefits-of-mind-uploading/#comment-157629 Vatin Petaneelanon Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:02:28 +0000 http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=903#comment-157629 Strongly agreed with comment #35 the outcome would not be so desirable if mind upload simply means creating a copy of me. I want a transfer not a copy Strongly agreed with comment #35 the outcome would not be so desirable if mind upload simply means creating a copy of me. I want a transfer not a copy

]]> By: Marjorie Kaye http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2009/01/what-are-the-benefits-of-mind-uploading/#comment-156637 Marjorie Kaye Tue, 24 May 2011 05:00:47 +0000 http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=903#comment-156637 What if you have mixed feelings? And all those repressed memories bite you where the moon don't show. John Gray claims that all of what comprises you that would be uploaded would be incomplete--a new you "cartoon" --far from the old you with all the baggage (resentments,socially unacceptable fantasies, etc). I know that "recovered memories" have fallen out of favor--for good reason considering the accusations of child molesting in the eighties, however when all those busy little nanos are scurrying around your synapses and traveling through the brain taking notes and whatnot, they might uncover some rather embarrassing artifacts--just the type of things that float out during all that "sharing in depth." Still it might be worth it to fly like superman (or girl). What if you have mixed feelings? And all those repressed memories bite you where the moon don’t show. John Gray claims that all of what comprises you that would be uploaded would be incomplete–a new you “cartoon” –far from the old you with all the baggage (resentments,socially unacceptable fantasies, etc). I know that “recovered memories” have fallen out of favor–for good reason considering the accusations of child molesting in the eighties, however when all those busy little nanos are scurrying around your synapses and traveling through the brain taking notes and whatnot, they might uncover some rather embarrassing artifacts–just the type of things that float out during all that “sharing in depth.” Still it might be worth it to fly like superman (or girl).

]]> By: Mind Upload http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2009/01/what-are-the-benefits-of-mind-uploading/#comment-156300 Mind Upload Sat, 07 May 2011 22:58:47 +0000 http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=903#comment-156300 "All is mind the universe is mental" “All is mind the universe is mental”

]]> By: MindBodyProblem http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2009/01/what-are-the-benefits-of-mind-uploading/#comment-153617 MindBodyProblem Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:33:43 +0000 http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=903#comment-153617 I haven't read through the comments thoroughly, but I'm not filled with confidence after seeing the ones I did. The article also didn't help. Has no one pointed out the obvious? Let's assume for now that functionalism is true (despite my total disagreement with it) and that mind uploading has become possible. Would I agree to upload my mind and go to machine form? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Suppose I upload my mind, but do so without destroying my brain, so now there are two 'copies' of me, one digital and one biological. Which one am I, i.e. which one do I see through the eyes of? The original, biological one, of course. Just because the same information is contained in both versions of me does not give them some sort of mystical connection; I would not be able to experience anything that happens to my digital self, and that fact wouldn't change if my biological self were killed in an accident the following week. So now consider the prospect of mind uploading and disposing of the obsolete original hardware. Does my consciousness make the jump to the new version? Clearly not, same as it wouldn't if my original body was kept kicking around. Sure, the outside world would still think of it as 'me', but I don't care; I couldn't see or feel or experience anything from its perspective, so I'd be dead. THIS IS NOT A DESIRABLE OUTCOME FOR ME. On another note: all this talk of the environmentalism of uploading is nonsense. Presumably, uploaded minds would be living in a 'matrix' i.e. a totally virtual world experienced as if it were 'real'. Why would anyone living in this virtual world care the slightest bit about carbon levels in the 'real' world? As long as the energy needed to maintain the virtual world continues to be delivered, the 'real' world is irrelevant to these minds. I haven’t read through the comments thoroughly, but I’m not filled with confidence after seeing the ones I did. The article also didn’t help. Has no one pointed out the obvious? Let’s assume for now that functionalism is true (despite my total disagreement with it) and that mind uploading has become possible. Would I agree to upload my mind and go to machine form? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Suppose I upload my mind, but do so without destroying my brain, so now there are two ‘copies’ of me, one digital and one biological. Which one am I, i.e. which one do I see through the eyes of? The original, biological one, of course. Just because the same information is contained in both versions of me does not give them some sort of mystical connection; I would not be able to experience anything that happens to my digital self, and that fact wouldn’t change if my biological self were killed in an accident the following week. So now consider the prospect of mind uploading and disposing of the obsolete original hardware. Does my consciousness make the jump to the new version? Clearly not, same as it wouldn’t if my original body was kept kicking around. Sure, the outside world would still think of it as ‘me’, but I don’t care; I couldn’t see or feel or experience anything from its perspective, so I’d be dead. THIS IS NOT A DESIRABLE OUTCOME FOR ME.

On another note: all this talk of the environmentalism of uploading is nonsense. Presumably, uploaded minds would be living in a ‘matrix’ i.e. a totally virtual world experienced as if it were ‘real’. Why would anyone living in this virtual world care the slightest bit about carbon levels in the ‘real’ world? As long as the energy needed to maintain the virtual world continues to be delivered, the ‘real’ world is irrelevant to these minds.

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