Here is the commentary. Most of all, I enjoy reviews and comments by outsiders with no contact with our current community. Here are a few quotes and my comments:
It is video conference phone call split screen debate between this Yudkowsky guy who is the head scientist at the Singularity Institute, and Lanier who has been the genius hippy in red dread locks since his early pioneering work with Virtual Reality and artificial vision systems.
Before you click the link, let me frame the debate.
These two guys represent the two extremes of a subtle range of viewpoints on evolution, AI, and human consciousness.
An interesting and subtle range that deserves more popular and academic attention and will get it sooner or later because we are building technologies that produce divisive responses to the relevant philosophical issues.
Jaron’s main criticism of the hard AI camp in this debate is that their strong attachment to finding a way past death and their apriori beliefe in the posibility of resonably building self evolving intelegence together become so rhetorically invasive that they can no longer do objective investigation or engineering… that their beliefs and desires make them “religious”.
Well, Jaron would probably prefer if we didn’t do any objective investigation or engineering, but that’s not true. Remember, as cybernetic totalists, we are totally devoted to our goal. Totally awesome!
From my perspective, Jaron is a nothing more than a (very bright) priest who can’t stop doing science in the basement, and Yudkoswsky is nothing less than a scientist that can’t help wanting to build a God.
Hah! A superintelligence would be like a god. I can vaguely understand why people who don’t regard MNT as plausible would disagree with this, but I never understand why those who do believe that MNT is plausible would.
The fireworks in the video begin at 11:00! I actually agree with many of Jaron’s points in the abstract. I disagree with him when he says that we cannot represent some physical systems in totality or simulate them precisely.