Yes, We Can Do Better Than This… Thursday, May 27 2010
transhumanism 7:05 pm
The New Atlantis Futurisms blog posted a picture of Audrey Hepburn with the title, “Does Anybody Seriously Think We Can Do Better than This?” Here’s my response. You may have to read the comments thread to gain some background.
The reason that Hepburn seems so great to us is that we’re humans. If lizards could speak, then hundreds of millions of years before humanity, a lizard would be similarly impressed by an image of another, attractive lizard. Does that mean that Creation should have stopped at lizards?
Our evaluations of “goodness” are not objective truths, just subjective facts about the structure of our own minds. The opportunity to modify and enhance those minds will vastly increase the space of things we can understand and appreciate. This will allow us to create new forms of attractiveness and wonder that we lack the facilities to appreciate now.
I disagree with my colleague Eliezer Yudkowsky that civilizations elsewhere in the universe are doing “better” in any absolute sense because evaluations of “better” are necessarily mind-structure-contingent. Humans can arbitrarily define the status quo as the best there is, and who could argue with them? That’s their personal opinion.
However, for the vast majority of people, “better” would indeed include more than the species or technological status quo. Maybe Hepburn would have embraced transhumanism if she lived in a time when safe and beneficial body and brain self-modification and self-improvement were possible. Of course, even though I’m favor of morphological freedom (rather than the morphological fascism that I have to look and think a certain specific way, the way it’s been for over 200K years) doesn’t mean that I discourage people from rejecting transhumanism entirely and living only among other humans. (I do, however, think that children should be able to do what they want with themselves after a certain age, and I doubt that Christian conservative parents will be able to stop their curious and neophilic children from embracing transhumanist technologies.) Today, for instance, there are some people that only choose to live among their own race, for fear that race-mixing leads to irrevocable societal chaos. It is only natural to fear that species-mixing in a society could lead to problems, but I’ll bet that some combinations of species could lead to a harmonious equilibrium.
Yes, I went there, in comparing fear of intelligent-species-mixing with fear of race-mixing. I don’t mean to be demagogic by doing so, just to illustrate the point that there will always be a mix of people who are more into mixing with those unlike themselves and those less into it. We can push everyone to try and accept everyone, but in practice it doesn’t always work. Sometimes people just don’t like each other. This phenomenon can occur between two twins, two tribes, or two or more intelligent species. Conservatives seem to often believe in the hypothesis that we more we’re alike, the better we can get along. Liberals argue that we can get along despite our diversity. The truth, as usual, is somewhere in between.




I actually agree with Charles T. Rubin here, what do you mean by better ?
Better by human genetic programing standard ?
For instance I think that Jessica Alba is attractive only because evolution programmed me to be attracted by certain female traits, waist to hips ratio, facial symmetry etc that might mean better fertility health and so on, she’s only better in my mind because of evolution programming.
Change that program and she might look ugly to me.
Or maybe you think that there is some mathematical law that makes her appearance really better than other women ?
As I mentioned in my comment, everyone can have a different definition of “better”, but I think there’s substantial coherence in those definitions when people aren’t deliberately trying to portray their preferences a certain way for the sake of argument.
Hmmm, this is an interesting argument. Recently I caught myself thinking, “What if the ways of experiencing the universe that my existing sensory organs do not allow are much more pleasurable, intuitive, or perhaps even much worse than the ways in which evolution has ‘fine tuned’ my senses?”
A question for you, Michael: Do you think that as humans gradually expand their sensory range with new technologies that we run a risk of straying from, or perhaps even losing, the ‘good’ elements of our human nature in favor of some highly efficient or technological ideal?
Love your site, by the way, read it daily at work. Excellent insights and eloquent writing — you are an even better spokesman for technology than Kurzweil.
The era of antitranshumanism has started. It is absolutely essential in dealing with these sentimnts to realize three things
1- these movements aren’t movements. They don’t agree on anything and bicker over everything. They are a mess.
2- analyze why they feel about transhumanism and why they agitate against it and you are enlightened. There are reasons they say what they say and they are not entirely honest. Or consistent. But the reasons these people have to resent what they term ‘transhumanism’ ARE valid. Unfortunately these arguments also miss the broad side of the barn.
3- As soon as they start cussing, ask them one simple thing – ‘what will you do if someone gets a transhuman modification’. Let them answer that question. If they do nothing but mutter angrily, let them. However if they advocate violence or repression, openly infer how else they would (or could) use this violence.
‘Antitranshumanism’, is a great opportunity. Marvelous really – by and large because they will be, as a movement, one giant argument FOR ‘diversified human species upgrades’.
Two points:
1. We can create supernormal stimuli now:
http://www.forgoodreason.org/deirdre_barrett_supernormal_stimuli
Think about the guys these days who fall in love with CGI or anime characters, for example, and wouldn’t give Audrey a second look.
2. “Maybe Hepburn would have embraced transhumanism if she lived in a time when safe and beneficial body and brain self-modification and self-improvement were possible.”
Audrey’s co-star in “Charade,” Cary Grant, went on record to say something quite like that shortly before he died:
http://www.carygrant.net/articles/my%20life.htm
“I’m not sure if I thought of it when I was a child, but when I was a young man, I was sure that medical science would have had the problem of death all sorted out. I was sure that by the time I reached the age I am now, they would have found a cure for it. You know, that they would have been able to transplant everything and we’d all just keep going on forever.”
“And?”
Again that nervous laugh, “And … they haven’t…”
Audrey Hepburn is one of the most generous celebrities I know. She is my role model as well as my mom’s. I love this quote from her… “As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands, one for helping yourself, the other for helping others. ” -Hannah Lee
Third time is a charm.