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		<title>Comment on Singularity Research Challenge by Hopefully Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=240#comment-43692</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopefully Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last one is a bit of a fail (rentiers don&#039;t win when the system dies) but overall awesome post</description>
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		<title>Comment on Quantum Immortality: First Salvo by Vladimir Nesov</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=215#comment-38452</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir Nesov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Cool idea, no?

No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Cool idea, no?</p>
<p>No.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quantum Immortality: First Salvo by William G. Tedford</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=215#comment-37699</link>
		<dc:creator>William G. Tedford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to be cautious pitting verbal logic against one another when we know quantum mechanics is a mathematical structure with &#039;real world&#039; implications. In the end, the math will win out. Still, has anyone noticed that arguments pro and con involving quantum immortality mix and match paradigms, Newtonian or classical physics, space time in nature, pitted against quantum mechanics, which is acausal in nature, if we can stay &#039;true&#039; to the nature of quantum interactions? Electrons, as we should know by now, don&#039;t move in time or space, as an example. They pop up where needed, and then they are gone.

The multiverse is a continuum. Space-time is not, broken at the Planck limit into quantum states and quantum interactions. If we have superpositioned bodies, however, we have superpositioned minds, bound by quantum interference, the same process that makes quantum computers possible. 

Consciousness is the eight hundred pound gorilla in the universe. We talk and talk about the contents of the &#039;container&#039; and give no consideration at all to the nature of the &#039;container&#039; itself when obviously, contents of a container say something of the nature of that which contains it. Consciousness cannot move electrons about in the brain like beads of an abacus, but neither can it be an epiphenomena when an epiphenomena cannot be fed back into a physical process, the brain, as physical information. We need to sort out that infamous mind-body problem before anything we say begins to make sense.

Here&#039;s an option. Begin with a bit of information, the seed of reality in our analogy. Quantum superpositioned, the bit becomes a qubit, and then an infinite field of qubits occupying no space, no time, but self-structuring. Reality is information. Evolution generates complexity assuming patterns are noticed and valued, an early stage of identity. Notice that from this perspective, quantum immortality is a given. The moment we live in had no beginning, has no end, but it changes, acausally, and only from the standpoint of space-time formatting consciousness does it do so &#039;moment&#039; by &#039;moment&#039;. 

In order for consciousness to have the elbow room to &#039;choose&#039;, it needs to focus on specific information to the exclusion of all other information, rendering itself finite in the process, even though it is ultimately infinite and contains all other perspectives. No one of them could ever be identified as the original. They are fungible. 

Reality contains an infinite number of conscious perspectives. Perhaps you are one of them. I am another. We are one, viewing ourselves from different perspectives. 

Cool idea, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to be cautious pitting verbal logic against one another when we know quantum mechanics is a mathematical structure with &#8216;real world&#8217; implications. In the end, the math will win out. Still, has anyone noticed that arguments pro and con involving quantum immortality mix and match paradigms, Newtonian or classical physics, space time in nature, pitted against quantum mechanics, which is acausal in nature, if we can stay &#8216;true&#8217; to the nature of quantum interactions? Electrons, as we should know by now, don&#8217;t move in time or space, as an example. They pop up where needed, and then they are gone.</p>
<p>The multiverse is a continuum. Space-time is not, broken at the Planck limit into quantum states and quantum interactions. If we have superpositioned bodies, however, we have superpositioned minds, bound by quantum interference, the same process that makes quantum computers possible. </p>
<p>Consciousness is the eight hundred pound gorilla in the universe. We talk and talk about the contents of the &#8216;container&#8217; and give no consideration at all to the nature of the &#8216;container&#8217; itself when obviously, contents of a container say something of the nature of that which contains it. Consciousness cannot move electrons about in the brain like beads of an abacus, but neither can it be an epiphenomena when an epiphenomena cannot be fed back into a physical process, the brain, as physical information. We need to sort out that infamous mind-body problem before anything we say begins to make sense.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an option. Begin with a bit of information, the seed of reality in our analogy. Quantum superpositioned, the bit becomes a qubit, and then an infinite field of qubits occupying no space, no time, but self-structuring. Reality is information. Evolution generates complexity assuming patterns are noticed and valued, an early stage of identity. Notice that from this perspective, quantum immortality is a given. The moment we live in had no beginning, has no end, but it changes, acausally, and only from the standpoint of space-time formatting consciousness does it do so &#8216;moment&#8217; by &#8216;moment&#8217;. </p>
<p>In order for consciousness to have the elbow room to &#8216;choose&#8217;, it needs to focus on specific information to the exclusion of all other information, rendering itself finite in the process, even though it is ultimately infinite and contains all other perspectives. No one of them could ever be identified as the original. They are fungible. </p>
<p>Reality contains an infinite number of conscious perspectives. Perhaps you are one of them. I am another. We are one, viewing ourselves from different perspectives. </p>
<p>Cool idea, no?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapture of the Nerds, Not by Accelerating Future &#187; Raiders News Networks Highlights My Comments to Tom Horn</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=21#comment-36882</link>
		<dc:creator>Accelerating Future &#187; Raiders News Networks Highlights My Comments to Tom Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Singularity a religion? No, for the reasons listed here. Profound uncertainty and a lack of any dominant central guru (or in many cases, organization of [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Star Trek as Bad Futurism by umbrarchist</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=3#comment-33976</link>
		<dc:creator>umbrarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the Deep Spce Nine episode House of Quark.

Double-entry accounting is 700 years old.  How hard can it be?

So why hasn&#039;t it been mandatory in our high schools for the last 50 years?  Why is Shakespeare more important than accounting?  Shakespeare was mentioned often in Star Trek.  But since they didn&#039;t have money why should they have accounitng?

But House of Quark showed how important it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the Deep Spce Nine episode House of Quark.</p>
<p>Double-entry accounting is 700 years old.  How hard can it be?</p>
<p>So why hasn&#8217;t it been mandatory in our high schools for the last 50 years?  Why is Shakespeare more important than accounting?  Shakespeare was mentioned often in Star Trek.  But since they didn&#8217;t have money why should they have accounitng?</p>
<p>But House of Quark showed how important it was.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Star Trek as Bad Futurism by umbrarchist</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=3#comment-33975</link>
		<dc:creator>umbrarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blather about economic growth is total rubbish.

How is it with all of this talk about technology you can&#039;t figure out that planned obsolescence is going on?  We had planes that could do 400+ mph in World War II but we are supposed to get excited because automobile companies keep redesigning crap that rolls along the ground at less than 130 mph.

So how much do Americans and the World lose on the depreciation of automobiles every year?  Has the entire economics profession forgotten to do that computation every year for the last 50?  What are PhDs for?  Failing to figure out the obvious?

But buying more of the junk is economic growth.  Now we have the planned obsolescence of computers and computer software.  We are supposed to buy more powerful hardware because the software is more bloated and inefficient.  YEAH RIGHT!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blather about economic growth is total rubbish.</p>
<p>How is it with all of this talk about technology you can&#8217;t figure out that planned obsolescence is going on?  We had planes that could do 400+ mph in World War II but we are supposed to get excited because automobile companies keep redesigning crap that rolls along the ground at less than 130 mph.</p>
<p>So how much do Americans and the World lose on the depreciation of automobiles every year?  Has the entire economics profession forgotten to do that computation every year for the last 50?  What are PhDs for?  Failing to figure out the obvious?</p>
<p>But buying more of the junk is economic growth.  Now we have the planned obsolescence of computers and computer software.  We are supposed to buy more powerful hardware because the software is more bloated and inefficient.  YEAH RIGHT!<br />
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		<title>Comment on Rapture versus MechaRapture by Rapture Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=233#comment-32890</link>
		<dc:creator>Rapture Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rapture Ready is right. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rapture Ready is right. <img src='http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Quantum Immortality: First Salvo by aldersondrive2007</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=215#comment-32449</link>
		<dc:creator>aldersondrive2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One could think of one&#039;s self in any one universe as the &quot;particle&quot; identity of self, and all the other versions of self, for simplicity&#039;s sake, at any instant in the multiverse, and the &quot;wave&quot; identity of self.

Other than the nagetive effects on others in any one reality, the ability to fine tune the realities in which one continues to exist via selecting through quantum suicide, would be vlaide, provided the many worlds theory is valid. 

Think of the soul as being the &quot;wave&quot; property of self (or multiple selves)and there is no need for consciousness to jump anywhere. 

You just simply deliberately eliminate yourself from all worlds in which you don&#039;t win the lottery.

That would be appx 1 in 100,000,000 that you would continue to exist.

This really is a very brutally simple concept in quantum physics, and could be a tool for a future self to use to create worlds in which one is much more &quot;fortunate&quot; than others.

This, however, isn&#039;t something I would do if my quality of life is reasonably good, because the theory isn&#039;t infallible, and we could have a limited understanding that could be superceded by a better one in the future.


However, let&#039;s say one is 90 or so, dying of a bad disease with no money, than why not go with the idea?

Win, you have millions of dollars. 

Lose, you don&#039;t have to suffer.

Using the same theory of winning the lottery with quantum suicide, you could also invest in a lab and hire techs to create expiremental human enhancement for your failing 90plus year old body.

Once again, go into the suicide machine, have a technician e-mail the outcome of a &quot;very improbable&quot; thearapy, and only continue to live in the &quot;most unlikely and lucky&quot; universe in which your 90 plus sick self, can be regenerated to a strong 20 something with an i.q. of 200 or so.

And that would be just the beggining...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could think of one&#8217;s self in any one universe as the &#8220;particle&#8221; identity of self, and all the other versions of self, for simplicity&#8217;s sake, at any instant in the multiverse, and the &#8220;wave&#8221; identity of self.</p>
<p>Other than the nagetive effects on others in any one reality, the ability to fine tune the realities in which one continues to exist via selecting through quantum suicide, would be vlaide, provided the many worlds theory is valid. </p>
<p>Think of the soul as being the &#8220;wave&#8221; property of self (or multiple selves)and there is no need for consciousness to jump anywhere. </p>
<p>You just simply deliberately eliminate yourself from all worlds in which you don&#8217;t win the lottery.</p>
<p>That would be appx 1 in 100,000,000 that you would continue to exist.</p>
<p>This really is a very brutally simple concept in quantum physics, and could be a tool for a future self to use to create worlds in which one is much more &#8220;fortunate&#8221; than others.</p>
<p>This, however, isn&#8217;t something I would do if my quality of life is reasonably good, because the theory isn&#8217;t infallible, and we could have a limited understanding that could be superceded by a better one in the future.</p>
<p>However, let&#8217;s say one is 90 or so, dying of a bad disease with no money, than why not go with the idea?</p>
<p>Win, you have millions of dollars. </p>
<p>Lose, you don&#8217;t have to suffer.</p>
<p>Using the same theory of winning the lottery with quantum suicide, you could also invest in a lab and hire techs to create expiremental human enhancement for your failing 90plus year old body.</p>
<p>Once again, go into the suicide machine, have a technician e-mail the outcome of a &#8220;very improbable&#8221; thearapy, and only continue to live in the &#8220;most unlikely and lucky&#8221; universe in which your 90 plus sick self, can be regenerated to a strong 20 something with an i.q. of 200 or so.</p>
<p>And that would be just the beggining&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quantum Immortality: First Salvo by Mr. Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=215#comment-32260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s stranger than we suppose, and we&#039;re talking about this with certain assumptions because of the difficulty it is to conceive of a single consciousness is splitting in two. Both of us are the exact same person the nanosecond after we split into two universes as the single person the nanosecond before we split. So one simply can&#039;t say that we don&#039;t survive our own death if there&#039;s one who survives and one who doesn&#039;t. It&#039;s difficult to think that we&#039;re living through all of our consciousnesses simultaneously while also simultaneously ignorant of each others&#039; experiences. And if the observable universe is dependent on the observer, then perhaps the observer never finds himself in a situation that would lead to his slow or instant death. Maybe someone who tries killing themself either keeps failing or never gets the courage to do so, what&#039;s more probable? Perhaps it&#039;s like the problem with time travel and the grandfather paradox. Maybe you could travel back in time but there&#039;s no possible opportunity for you to ever kill, or vasectomize, your own grandfather. These are just musings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s stranger than we suppose, and we&#8217;re talking about this with certain assumptions because of the difficulty it is to conceive of a single consciousness is splitting in two. Both of us are the exact same person the nanosecond after we split into two universes as the single person the nanosecond before we split. So one simply can&#8217;t say that we don&#8217;t survive our own death if there&#8217;s one who survives and one who doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s difficult to think that we&#8217;re living through all of our consciousnesses simultaneously while also simultaneously ignorant of each others&#8217; experiences. And if the observable universe is dependent on the observer, then perhaps the observer never finds himself in a situation that would lead to his slow or instant death. Maybe someone who tries killing themself either keeps failing or never gets the courage to do so, what&#8217;s more probable? Perhaps it&#8217;s like the problem with time travel and the grandfather paradox. Maybe you could travel back in time but there&#8217;s no possible opportunity for you to ever kill, or vasectomize, your own grandfather. These are just musings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapture of the Nerds, Not by Nerd Nihilism &#124; Thrivenotes</title>
		<link>http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/steven/?p=21#comment-31781</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerd Nihilism &#124; Thrivenotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eternal bliss. And you don&#8217;t even have to believe in it to get the access-cards to the Mega-Rapture of the Nerds. It&#8217;s just gonna happen, what with all the modulation and widgetizing and hackitizing, not to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eternal bliss. And you don&#8217;t even have to believe in it to get the access-cards to the Mega-Rapture of the Nerds. It&#8217;s just gonna happen, what with all the modulation and widgetizing and hackitizing, not to [...]</p>
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